essay #3

Students in high school are blocked by the teacher and the authority that is given to them. In high school good readers keep selected information and look for facts and just repeat them back and they also believe in there truth while an experienced college writer reads as a rhetorical reader like hass and flower say” that rhetorical reader is someone who keeps knowledge in their mind and transfers all knowledge in a way they can understand or there meaning”. The definition of meaning like berthoff says is “Meaning is something is created by some ones experiences and what they’ve done that is what”. Some people ask questions such as “how to understand more of what you read? the answer is rhetorical reading what rhetorical reading is in the words of Haas & Flower they say that rhetorical reading is” rhetorical reading is the reading and as you read you comprehend and understand the meaning by what you have done , seen or expiercinced . The way people get Sources and write better is because “Students simply need to gain more knowledge about the topic in order to write about it with authority” that is what Penrose and Geisler say. The way students gain authority is by knowing what your writing about and freeing your mind. Some people make assumptions like” all you do in research paper is plug in facts and there sources:” while in reality what you are supposed to do is get the facts and challenge them with facts or opinions of other writer’s or thing you’ve seen to prove your point. Teachers in high school destroy chaos which is not so good because in college teachers encourage chaos because they know that threw chaos they will create meaning. A other question people have is “what is the difference between h.s. writing and college writing.” The answer to that are high school research deals with gathering information and plugging it into the essay while challenging, proving and then put into the paper along with all the challenges and proof you’re just done. In the passage of Penrose and Geisler they compare roger a experienced writer to Janet a freshmen in college and found that roger would look for challenging articles to prove point while Janet wouldn’t and she would just push articles away that challenged her ideas while roger accepted them and proved they were wrong or proved his own option with his sources and experiences. Roger wrote with more authority because he knew more of the topic then Janet did. The main things students must learn is rhetorical reading because they need to understand that just because you say something does not mean that the reader will understand you. A good example of this is not in reading but rhetorical while in conversation once I went to Houston and I went to a country store and asked for a “cinch “ the person behind the counter was not rally country he just worked there so he pulled out a pair of cinch jeans and what I wanted was a cinch for my saddle to put under the horse so that the saddle would not fall. That to me is a good example of rhetorical thinking and understanding. The reason I think that it is a good example is because person behind the counter thought of “cinch “ as the pair of jeans that urban city “wanna be “ cowboys wear while I ( the real country boy) wanted a cinch that goes on a saddle so in his head as he heard the word he thought rhetorically the jeans because he was used to that and had experienced the meaning and name of the jeans while I was used to and understood cinch and I was use to the kind that straps saddle to the horse.